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Re: Question for Enlisted Personal
« Reply #15 on: June 25, 2012, 06:49:08 PM »
So I was in the USMC for four years as a grunt, it was hell of a ride. I got stationed in Hawaii (loved it) did two different over sea deployments (okinawa, japan, hong kong, phillipines twice). The deployments were both awesome and very lonesome for a young man. I chose grunts because I wanted to feel like I was in the Marines and not supporting them. I didn't want to be admin, supply, motor T.

All I can say I was glad I did it and but wished it was only three year terms instead of four. If you are single its a lot easier than be married and being away from your family puts a strain on your SO.

You really should want to do this and then you will enjoy otherwise don't put yourself in that position.

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« Reply #16 on: June 25, 2012, 07:23:20 PM »
Based on what you were saying about the pharmacy this trade is likely what you're looking for, it's officer and it's in demand right now so that's good.

http://www.forces.ca/en/job/pharmacyofficer-48


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Re: Question for Enlisted Personal
« Reply #17 on: June 26, 2012, 12:15:52 AM »
So I was in the USMC for four years as a grunt, it was hell of a ride. I got stationed in Hawaii (loved it) did two different over sea deployments (okinawa, japan, hong kong, phillipines twice). The deployments were both awesome and very lonesome for a young man. I chose grunts because I wanted to feel like I was in the Marines and not supporting them. I didn't want to be admin, supply, motor T.

All I can say I was glad I did it and but wished it was only three year terms instead of four. If you are single its a lot easier than be married and being away from your family puts a strain on your SO.

You really should want to do this and then you will enjoy otherwise don't put yourself in that position.

I do want to do this for reasons I have mentioned before, and while I may sound nervous well I am this will be a huge change for me but I feel it's some thing I need to do. And as for patriotic spirit as one person mentioned I do have that as well I would like to be part of some thing greater. I simply can't let my fear control me.

Based on what you were saying about the pharmacy this trade is likely what you're looking for, it's officer and it's in demand right now so that's good.

http://www.forces.ca/en/job/pharmacyofficer-48

Unfortunately that one won't work that for a actual pharmacist not a pharmacy tech the course for that is almost as tough as becoming a doctor from what I understand, the closest for what I wanted is this one.
http://www.forces.ca/en/job/medicaltechnician-70
And I might even be able to pass most of the qualifiers except for the drivers license, the dental tech one looks promising as well.

Again I want to thank folks for the feedback and information your sharing with me, I know this is a huge matter I am considering one that will change my life for years to come should I undertake it.
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Re: Question for Enlisted Personal
« Reply #18 on: June 26, 2012, 04:02:17 PM »
Okay so I got a question and it's a bit odd well I think it is.

Is there any thing I should bring with me that's not on the list of items your supposed to bring for basic and is there anything I should absolutely not bring with me. Any thing that I might find very handy or useful that your experience has taught you when you went through it.

snissel

Re: Question for Enlisted Personal
« Reply #19 on: June 26, 2012, 04:55:06 PM »
Don't bring any extra because most likely it will be stored away until your done with training. This is your new life learn to travel light, this will make your military life so much easier especially if you specced for grunt lol.

Word of advice for basic is do what they tell you with a sense of urgency all the effen time and they will leave you alone. Basic is nothing like the fleet and its really short when you think about it.

If you are feeling down in basic get over it quickly. They are pushing you hard to make you learn what you are capable of. Humans are capable of a lot so believe in yourself and never give up. Don't let them beat you down and and don't beat yourself down if you fail something during basic.

Keep a positive attitude and understand why they yell at you, its not personal unless you make it personal.
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Re: Question for Enlisted Personal
« Reply #20 on: June 26, 2012, 06:09:53 PM »
Ditto what Snissel said.

Basic is about breaking the civilian down and remaking you the "Army" (or insert other service) way. You must be open to change, open to doing everything the way you are told.

Also, you must bre prepared to be around people that you can't get away from. If you are lucky, you will like everyone you meet. However, if someone you don't like is in your company, platoon, room or above or below your bunk, tough nuts you are stuck with them and must find a way to deal. That fact can be a shock when you are used to ignoring someone you don't get along with and getting away from them whenever you wish.

As far as the drill instructors go, they will be hard on everyone for the first few days. As nerve jarring as that can be, do not take it personally. They will change over time as you learn and grow as a soldier. They will single out and target the malcontents, the loners or the smart-alecks. If you do your work, mind your business and don't cause problems, you will escape singled out punishment. One word of caution: you will be punished for other's mistakes. This was very hard for me to deal with. You will have to deal with what seems like mind numblingly ignorant punishment for no reason. Just deal with it. To deal with it, expect it and be mentally prepared. For example, sleep is precious. If some jerk gets caught sneaking out, they may pull the whole company out in the middle of the night and smoke you which is a quant term for making you do extreme PT as punishment. The loss of sleep can be very difficult, particularly when you are innocent of any wrong doing but it's a common practice to get the group to police themselves. This kind of group punishment can happen anywhere at anytime.

To answer the question about what to bring, just bring what your recruiter says. You will buy all necessary toiletries that you don't bring during your processing. Other than that, there is precious little that you are allowed to use that you can't buy at the PX when you are given the opportunity. For the most part, you won't have a need for anything else initially. What you should think about is getting your affairs at home taken care of. I arranged a power of attorney for my parents to take care of any financial or legal matters while I was gone. I could wire money home and they could get in and out of my bank account. I did this because of my reserve status. Folks that go full time open bank accounts local to the base they are in.

A note about banks: here in the States, Woodforest Bank can be found in Wal-Mart. I am not particularly fond of Wal-Mart and not all Wal-Marts have a Woodforest Bank, but it is an excellent bank for someone that travels as there is a very good chance that wherever you go in the States, you will find a bank nearby without changing banks. There are other banks that have nationwide branches, such as Bank of America but I encourage you to check around. These kind of issues are more important than what you pack in your bag. For the most part, if you don't think you need it, don't pack it!

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Re: Question for Enlisted Personal
« Reply #21 on: June 26, 2012, 06:29:18 PM »
Okay so I got a question and it's a bit odd well I think it is.

Is there any thing I should bring with me that's not on the list of items your supposed to bring for basic and is there anything I should absolutely not bring with me. Any thing that I might find very handy or useful that your experience has taught you when you went through it.

A good pair of civilian running shoes. It's true that most stuff you bring with you will be confiscated and sent to civi lockup and you are provided a list of stuff to bring to basic. But the shoes that they issue you are total garbage. When you get there you'll be given a pay advance to buy everything you need at the Canex. Which is like the PX for the Americans out there.
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Re: Question for Enlisted Personal
« Reply #22 on: June 26, 2012, 06:31:16 PM »
@Maligner Woodforest doesn't exist in Canada.


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« Reply #23 on: June 26, 2012, 06:32:54 PM »
OH and if you do decide to join the military, for the love of god don't get a provincial phone plan. I had to eat $400 in cancellation fees when I left Sasktel.


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Re: Question for Enlisted Personal
« Reply #24 on: June 26, 2012, 07:07:28 PM »
@Maligner Woodforest doesn't exist in Canada.

But Wal-Mart does? If so, they probably have an agreement with a bank too.

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Re: Question for Enlisted Personal
« Reply #25 on: June 26, 2012, 07:33:08 PM »
@Maligner Woodforest doesn't exist in Canada.

But Wal-Mart does? If so, they probably have an agreement with a bank too.

It doesn't. None of the ones I've ever been in up here have them.



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Re: Question for Enlisted Personal
« Reply #26 on: June 26, 2012, 10:33:50 PM »

To answer the question about what to bring, just bring what your recruiter says. You will buy all necessary toiletries that you don't bring during your processing. Other than that, there is precious little that you are allowed to use that you can't buy at the PX when you are given the opportunity. For the most part, you won't have a need for anything else initially. What you should think about is getting your affairs at home taken care of. I arranged a power of attorney for my parents to take care of any financial or legal matters while I was gone. I could wire money home and they could get in and out of my bank account. I did this because of my reserve status. Folks that go full time open bank accounts local to the base they are in.

A note about banks: here in the States, Woodforest Bank can be found in Wal-Mart. I am not particularly fond of Wal-Mart and not all Wal-Marts have a Woodforest Bank, but it is an excellent bank for someone that travels as there is a very good chance that wherever you go in the States, you will find a bank nearby without changing banks. There are other banks that have nationwide branches, such as Bank of America but I encourage you to check around. These kind of issues are more important than what you pack in your bag. For the most part, if you don't think you need it, don't pack it!

All good advice right now my banking is done through TD which has branches pretty much every were in Canada as far as I know, but you reminded me I should get the power of attorney set up with a family member to deal with the few monthly bills I pay.

OH and if you do decide to join the military, for the love of god don't get a provincial phone plan. I had to eat $400 in cancellation fees when I left Sasktel.

On the matter of the phone should I cancel my current plan should I invest in a cell phone I really am rather clueless when it comes to this matter and I figure it may be important given this will be the first time I will be away from a lengthy period of time. Well since cell phones became so common that is.

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Re: Question for Enlisted Personal
« Reply #27 on: June 26, 2012, 10:56:23 PM »
I would say it's a smart bet to cancel home phone and look into a cell phone. If you decide to apply, you should call your phone provider to see what cancellation options are available, you don't want to be 2 weeks away from heading out for basic only to find out that you have to call 30 days in advance to cancel certain bills

After that I would advise hooking up a cell phone with one of the national providers, likely Telus or Rogers, but look at the plans and see what fits you. You'll probably be all over the place for the first 2 years so cell phone is really your best bet.

Just a quicky anecdote, my Dad was posted to Saskatchewan but didn't buy a house because they said we'd only be there for a year, no more. I lived there for 9 years. Just goes to show that no matter what you're told, reality doesn't always match up.

Just curious because I don't think you've mentioned it yet. Do you have any dependents? Because if you don't then you probably won't have many bills to pay as the military will require you to get rid of any housing you have right now. I.e. if you live in an apartment, you'll have to break the lease on it, if there is one, as you'll be staying in military housing for quite some time (situation dependent).

And you should also get in touch with a recruiter as soon as you decide you want to apply. I'm giving the best answers I can based off of personal experience, but frankly answers differ from base to base, from trade to trade, and some might be out of date. So don't take everything said here as gospel.
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Re: Question for Enlisted Personal
« Reply #28 on: June 27, 2012, 11:34:54 AM »
I am aiming at about two months to get every thing ready gathering up all the paperwork they're asking for and getting in better shape as well not that I'm in bad shape but I know I need to be in much better shape. And I will look into cell phone plans and phones, and I hear you when you say you may be told one thing but have another happen.

And fortunately no I have no dependents I am single no girlfriend I am leaving alone  I live with my brother we share a house mostly it's me doing all the grunt work around the house keeping it neat and tidy since I am jobless at this time. So getting out of that is no issue I expect he'll throw a party when I'm gone all thou he better no ask me to come back when on leave and mow his lawn for him.

And don't worry I take every thing with a grain a salt, but still your being a huge help and I can't thank you enough for it all.

snissel

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« Reply #29 on: June 27, 2012, 12:07:01 PM »
Ways to prep yourself for boot camp:

Start getting up early like 5 am, then stretch for 15 minutes and then run a mile. Then the next day run 10% more and so on. You need to build your endurance/stamina up. You are speccing as if you are tank in a mmo. You will need to be able to take a beating (not a violent type but a endurance type ).

Getting used to getting up early will help immensely. Since you have two months you should be able to acclimate yourself by then.

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