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Spamming the /yell channel
« on: March 23, 2011, 11:46:03 AM »
I'll be honest: I don't agree with us using the /yell channel for our induction events.  Yes, we are holding an RP event on an RP server, but when you have over 50 people suddenly /yelling "All the way!" in that channel, it's understandably and undeniably obnoxious from an outsider's perspective.  Conversations in other channels that share your chat log suddenly are broken by a stream of text that crits for over 9000.  And no one outside of our guild understands, appreciates, or even cares what's going on, so why should we subject them to a bunch of "All the Way!" statements that are completely out of nowhere?  We have guild chat to show everyone in our circle our support without annoying other folks who probably shouldn't have to endure what we did to them last night. 

Now, I fully support holding the events.  I love the gathering and the ceremony and the camaraderie from getting everyone together.  But I also support the people who complained about us spamming the /yell channel last night, and I think it reflects poorly on our tenet of mutual respect if we use that channel so defiantly (hah, I'm funny... not).

I'm not Thranx or Airic or anyone with any leadership roles within the guild, so this is me stating my opinion and nothing more.  However, I think our leadership should consider endorsing the use of guildchat or say, rather than /yell, when we shout our hoorahs for new members. 

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Re: Spamming the /yell channel
« Reply #1 on: March 23, 2011, 12:20:24 PM »
Yes there seems to be a poophead on the Rift forums that is completely and blindly crying about it and apparently insults everyone that even points to a remotely reasonable suggestion.

Personally I don't care it's a  cheer that is supposed to be heard far and wide! But it doesn't seem like it is being looked at positively at the current time.

edit: So far seems to be only 1 individual that is complaining though, mostly support to the rp cause.
« Last Edit: March 23, 2011, 12:22:40 PM by nautix »
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Re: Spamming the /yell channel
« Reply #2 on: March 23, 2011, 12:25:30 PM »
I posted my thoughts on that thread, and I understand your concern Savant.  We do it once a week, and it lasts maybe a min.

If more members feel it's a major concern than maybe we should reconsider, but right now based on the complainer on the Rift forums, he's trying to impose his own ideas of RP on others.  Which imo is not something we should be concerned about.

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Re: Spamming the /yell channel
« Reply #3 on: March 23, 2011, 12:37:15 PM »
We've yelled "Lead the Way" for almost 10 years.  This is the first game where someone has complained.  I don't think we are changing it now.

Nothing we did was against the rules of the RP Server.  Many of the asshats who responded were.  We shouldn't stop to accommodate them.

A Battle Cry is meant to be yelled, and that's what we do.


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Re: Spamming the /yell channel
« Reply #4 on: March 23, 2011, 12:47:32 PM »
We've yelled "Lead the Way" for almost 10 years.  This is the first game where someone has complained.  I don't think we are changing it now.

Nothing we did was against the rules of the RP Server.  Many of the asshats who responded were.  We shouldn't stop to accommodate them.

A Battle Cry is meant to be yelled, and that's what we do.


Battle Cry... sounds soo much better then cheer (what i've been using) curse you English for not being my 1st language rofl :)
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Re: Spamming the /yell channel
« Reply #6 on: March 23, 2011, 12:52:24 PM »
Well, I'm not ragequitting the guild because of it, and yeah, I think people who go overboard with the complaining are asshats, but I also think what we're doing is rather discourteous. 

Anyway, I've expressed my thoughts, and I'll just choose to not participate in the /yelling, and you will probably never hear me talk about it again unless asked.  (I make no guarantees, though. :))

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Re: Spamming the /yell channel
« Reply #7 on: March 23, 2011, 12:57:55 PM »
/say and /yell are for RP on an RP server.  Is, has been, and will always be that way.

Anyone who does not like that, imho, should role on Lotham which is just PVP and not RP.  Or when they see Guardians massing, zone out of where we are, as to not be bothered. We can yell loudly, but surely our battle cry is not heard all the way in Shimmersand!  Of course, with so many of us ... it may echo through the mountains of Iron Pine!

Spamming "All the Way" or anything in the zone channel, level channel, or trade channel or other such channels would be annoying and wrong on our part. I concede that ... which is why we do not do that.

I do not see any reason to change our events as they fit quite well on the server we are on.  What we do is right, fine, and good and should not be changed. It is a part of the Guardian identity through many games and years.

Also, I have learned to always avoid any MMOs official forums - there be trolls, asshats, QQers, and whiners galore. I say, play the game, not the forums.


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Re: Spamming the /yell channel
« Reply #8 on: March 23, 2011, 01:03:54 PM »
Well, I'm not ragequitting the guild because of it, and yeah, I think people who go overboard with the complaining are asshats, but I also think what we're doing is rather discourteous. 

Anyway, I've expressed my thoughts, and I'll just choose to not participate in the /yelling, and you will probably never hear me talk about it again unless asked.  (I make no guarantees, though. :))


**** I think it's better if I take that quote out. :o

On a serious note though, even though the above is supposed to be, I generally don't yell it every time, just when i'm in the zone for it. Initiations and the mass of people that we get is just amazing and it definitely causes some Rpiness to cook up even in people like myself who are for the first time ever on an RP server.
« Last Edit: March 23, 2011, 02:46:42 PM by nautix »
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Re: Spamming the /yell channel
« Reply #9 on: March 23, 2011, 01:46:04 PM »
I do understand the issue some have with it. But as I argued with the people in /yell last night about it...yell, and say are considered RP chat channels. It isn't something we go around doing every hour on the hour every day. It is something that we yell in order to show that we are there, and we are a driving force to be reckon with. As Airic said before, it has been a symbol of The Guardians for the last 10 years, and it most likely will not change. If it is something that comes up and many people disagree with it, fine, maybe we should look into only having some people yell it, or we'll do it in say. Noone is telling people to say it. I'm perfectly fine with not having everyone say it. I have even decided to not say it sometimes because yes, having 45+ people yelling it is an amazing feat in itself. Our numbers are massive.
To sum it up, while I do think that you have a right to be annoyed with it, because I have been annoyed with people flooding chat, It is not something that happens all the time. It is a battle chant that we've had for years, and will be our battle chant for years to come.


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Re: Spamming the /yell channel
« Reply #10 on: March 23, 2011, 02:42:12 PM »
The wall of red last night in my chat made me wince a little bit . . . but the real problem wasn't our yells as they ended fairly quick.

The real problem was the 50 people afterwards that used yell and were being jerks about it. Most likely long after we left Sanctum.

I've been in Sanctum during other times when folks are yelling just to make sure everyone else knows they exist. *shrugs* At least the ones we did last night were RP based. The amount of junk that fills my chat log on a regular basis is mostly garbage . . . one reason why I made a different primary chat window with only group/party/raid/tells

Ignoring the complainers, and avoiding arguments in yell is probably the best course of action. The folks who RP appreciate the fact we do, those that don't will always look for a reason to make everyone else miserable.





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Re: Spamming the /yell channel
« Reply #11 on: March 23, 2011, 03:14:22 PM »
I think this thread should be moved to the private forums.

Also, I do not think yelling Lead the Way! is RP, at least in shout by all of us, maybe in say. I brought this up before. Not like it is a guildbreaker for me or anything but I think we could do something more RP then all of us spamming in yell.

Edit: That being said, if we did our RP shouting events somewhere other then Sanctum (the highest pop area in the game), say, perhaps on the Island by the noob zone then we could shout whatever we wanted.
« Last Edit: March 23, 2011, 03:18:15 PM by Booms »

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Re: Spamming the /yell channel
« Reply #12 on: March 23, 2011, 03:30:25 PM »
Wow, I had no idea that this thread (and the one started by someone else on the Sunrest forum) would drive so much conversation. 

I will say this: I don't agree with people using "we only do it once a week for like a minute" as justification.  If you think that the guild should continue to use the /yell channel for the battle cry, that's certainly your right to opine.  But it's still an understandable annoyance to non-TG folks, however brief, and you can't realistically expect everyone to agree with your assertion that using /yell in that fashion is valid, justified RP.  Unless RP rules are established by Trion, it's all open to interpretation.  And as much as I think the OP of the Sunrest forum post is being rather difficult, his opinion is just as legit as anyone else who plays the game.

Basically, all I'm saying is at least own up to the fact that you realize that you will be pissing people off and you're okay with it.  :)

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Re: Spamming the /yell channel
« Reply #13 on: March 23, 2011, 03:50:06 PM »
Hmm, I just read all of this, what is the purpose of /yell is not for RPing?
The way I see it, if it bothers someone that much, that people are using the game and all of it's designs for what it's intended, then they shouldn't roll on a RP-PVP server, go to a regular PVP server.

Trion put /yell in there for a reason and it wasn't for someone to negotiate a trade or talk about sports.


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Re: Spamming the /yell channel
« Reply #14 on: March 23, 2011, 03:53:53 PM »
Basically, all I'm saying is at least own up to the fact that you realize that you will be pissing people off and you're okay with it.  :)

For every one person this pisses off...we get 10 more applications.



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