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Re: Article on SWTOR subscription numbers
« Reply #15 on: April 23, 2012, 12:52:18 pm »
Yea I was about to say that the raids in TOR are shorter than any other game I've played.  I think it's great that we can get two full raids done in a 3-4 span.

It's the damn flashpoints that are WAAAAAY TOOOOOOO LOOOOOONNNNNNGGGGG.    I REEALLY want to do more of the flashpoints but it seems they all take HOURS.

The operations though are a great length at the 1-1.5 hours they each take to complete.  I wouldn't change that at all.  I hated having to devote 3-5 hours to a single raid in WoW.

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Re: Article on SWTOR subscription numbers
« Reply #16 on: April 23, 2012, 02:08:40 pm »
The time length for raids is the single reason why I was unable to raid in WoW and is the single reason I am able to in TOR. I love that you get a challenging raid and can have the whole thing completed in under 2 hours. It's great.

I agree with Barn, though, some of those Flashpoints are crazy long.
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Re: Article on SWTOR subscription numbers
« Reply #17 on: April 23, 2012, 04:25:45 pm »
 In regards to the main topic. It's all spin towards personal feelings pro or con, see the same with wow and very soon will with GW2 (currently its in the engagement phase, all lovey. Next comes honeymoon phase but not long after the haters will start to ramp it up on that too).

 As to FP and ops length, neither are that long if you have a group that knows it and isn't watching every second of every cutscene. Esseles used to take forever, now when I run an alt through its less than an hour easy...unless somebody watches the cutscenes.
 

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Re: Article on SWTOR subscription numbers
« Reply #18 on: April 23, 2012, 05:41:47 pm »
I've played EQ and WoW primarily for the last decade plus, with several other MMO's sprinkled in. All I'm saying is, the core mechanics of grinding a semi-linear path is something I really am not interested in long-term and I don't think I'm the only one.

I think it was a mistake to make a WoW clone, and I call it that because that's the most recent and most commercially succesful MMO that has the grind and gear oriented core. Also because SWTOR was built to be a WoW clone from the developers mouths, and I didn't quote that first time around but seems this must be mentioned to not be marginalized as though restating the developer's intent is a slam on the game.

For what it's worth, I'm the kind of person that didn't have a max toon in WoW until probably level 80 and 3 + years later. I'm not a race to the end kind of person. End game content is a mystery to me. My beef, as stated, is with the sheer monotony of a game style that I am totally over. I have dropped my preorder of Diablo 3 for the same reasons, linearity and a redux of the same core gameplay of it's predecessors.

I'm not knocking anyone that likes SWTOR. Heck, if I was still into MMO's I think it would be great to play SWTOR over any of the rest although LOTRO is a close second in my book. Or, if I was new to MMO's it would be great to have SWTOR be my first MMO and have those memories.

But in addressing falling subs, real or imagined, the discussion I have to have is that I think the game is stale at it's core, yadda yadda yadda. That's all I'm saying. In regards to falling subs, or to stretch out the discussion and wonder why WoW hasn't lost 5 million subs to SWTOR, it's because there's really nothing substantially new to offer. In fact, I think WoW has been losing gamers as people like me tire of the same old thing. I personally think WoW will shrink considerably over the next couple of years. It's not my intention to be a hater of SWTOR. But for now as players of WoW try SWTOR they find they have more time invested and more options in WoW, or they give up like me as they find the same old fence to climb and don't want to do that anymore.

Perhaps it's no longer worth discussing until there are server merges. Incidentally, as someone who doesn't sub and also didn't check during the free period, what are the server pops now?

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Re: Article on SWTOR subscription numbers
« Reply #19 on: April 23, 2012, 05:55:49 pm »
Our Server is fine.


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Re: Article on SWTOR subscription numbers
« Reply #20 on: April 23, 2012, 06:09:18 pm »
Yeah our server is consistently well populated.


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Re: Article on SWTOR subscription numbers
« Reply #21 on: April 23, 2012, 06:10:34 pm »
Jung Ma is a fine ol' server.  ;)

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