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Offline Borneheld

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38 Studio - Laid off entire team
« on: May 24, 2012, 07:34:20 PM »
I`m following the events unfold on FOH thread for Copernicus.

http://www.fohguild.org/forums/mmorpg-general-discussion/40053-38-studios-copernicus-mercury-other-stuff-926.html

Sounds like another Vigil Studios desater (Vanguard:SOH)

Sad when a large team gets put out on the street...:(

http://www.joystiq.com/2012/05/24/38-studios-and-big-huge-games-lay-off-entire-staffs/
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Re: 38 Studio - Laid off entire team
« Reply #1 on: May 24, 2012, 08:40:17 PM »
This one is really devastating. Been following this one for a month. There were some amazing people working there. Good energy and good luck to them. I have a friend who was working there. :(

This is sadly nothing new though. The video game industry is something you must really love to be a part of because layoffs is something you must always expect. This has always been extremely common. Sad thing is in this instance, there is some drama.


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Re: 38 Studio - Laid off entire team
« Reply #2 on: May 24, 2012, 11:01:18 PM »
I originally entered school as a game designer because I wanted to do game art, and then I learned about the game industry and the instability of many of the positions and with a family already started it just was not something I could do.

Hate to see this but as Zyloh said it is pretty common. I just hope these folks find somewhere else to go to practice their craft without having to be unemployed too long.

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Re: 38 Studio - Laid off entire team
« Reply #3 on: May 25, 2012, 06:57:13 AM »
For those that didn't know, 38 studio is the one Curt Shilling Started, the ex boston Redsox pitcher.

It is sad to see people lose jobs like this, but also tough to see someone dreams crushed, His team was working hard on a bad business plan it seems...and they didnt even see this coming.
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Re: 38 Studio - Laid off entire team
« Reply #4 on: May 25, 2012, 07:21:34 AM »
Zyloh, not sure what specialty your friend is, but I know that the co-founders of Infinity Ward that were laid off by Activision and started Respawn Entertainment might still be hiring. Its an option for them to check out.
  

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Re: 38 Studio - Laid off entire team
« Reply #5 on: May 25, 2012, 07:52:22 AM »
That's awful! I really hate when small business go under. Plus, this seemed like it could make a niche mmo after seeing who was involved and why.
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Re: 38 Studio - Laid off entire team
« Reply #6 on: May 25, 2012, 08:35:10 AM »
I always thought I wanted to be in the gaming industry. I've had several friends in the 90's work on quite a few, and their experiences were fairly positive.

Years later, I got the opportunity to play WoW in a guild that was created mostly by folks in the gaming industry. Most of them lived in the Austin area and were responsible for SWG. Over time, I realized how painful it was for them to be doing what they did. Constantly talking game mechanics, asking just about everyone they grouped with what they did/not like in gaming, and sharing stories about what the industry is like.

For the game designer/developer it's really hard these days. Most ideas are stomped by higher ups and business folks that have a very narrow minded view on what gamers want. I can't even tell you how many small gaming companies, or games being worked on within them have been shut down, or moth balled for some reason or other.

They still truck on . . . trying to make THE game they'd love to see out there for folks to play. Generally it doesn't come to pass.

Even SWTOR. I know a few folks that worked on that as well. A lot of players feel they have been betrayed by what it turned into . . . I'm sure you can imagine how that might feel being on the inside and seeing it first hand turn into something you don't want it to.

I feel bad for the folks that work at 38 Studios, but deep down I know most of them probably know how volatile the industry is. The fact that the people in charge moved their operations from Boston area to Rhode Island because of the 'incentive' they were offered, and it turned out to be a bad business move. Maybe it was the best thing for them to do at the time, but I can't imagine they couldn't see this coming down the road.

Hopefully Turbine will pick up a lot of the local talent. Otherwise, for a lot of game developers/designers . . . it'll be another 'pick up and move' to where the next gaming company lives. For now . . anyways.

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Re: 38 Studio - Laid off entire team
« Reply #7 on: May 25, 2012, 01:48:08 PM »
I know GW2 was tweeting to them of job offers last night and so was EA.

I`m sure they will land on their feet somewhere.
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« Reply #8 on: May 25, 2012, 02:12:12 PM »

Curt Schilling’s 38 Studios lays off entire staff - Business - The Boston Globe


Curt Schilling’s troubled 38 Studios laid off its entire staff in Rhode Island and Maryland on Thursday in a stunning turn of events for the former Red Sox pitcher’s ambitious gambit to build a video game franchise off the back of a winning baseball career.

The decision comes less than two weeks after 38 Studios’ financial woes surfaced and deep cracks began appearing in the six-year-old company. It was lured from Maynard to Rhode Island on the promise of a $75 million loan guarantee from a state hoping Schilling’s vision could bring high-paying jobs.

“I’m stunned, and I’m heartbroken,’’ said R.A. Salvatore, a Leominster fantasy author who was a consultant to 38 Studios and whose son worked at the company. “This is one of the best teams I’ve ever seen assembled. They were doing amazing work.’’


The company, which employed more than 400 full-time workers and contractors, moved to Providence in April 2011 and by February of this year had released its first game, Kingdoms of Amalur: Reckoning.

But 38 Studios missed its May 1 payment of $1.1 million to Rhode Island and did not have enough cash to meet its payroll on May 15. To stay afloat, it asked Rhode Island for more money, applying for $8.4 million in film-tax credits, which it could then sell to other companies seeking to lower their tax bills.

The company did not inform Rhode Island Governor Lincoln Chafee about the layoff. Chafee said the state has not been able to confirm how many workers were let go and has struggled to get other critical details since 38 Studios ran into financial trouble.

Still, Chafee said he is open to working with the company to help find ways for it to survive.

“I have not given up,’’ he said. “But I am also a realist. What we’ve learned from [industry] experts is grim news. Very, very grim.’’

Chafee said he believes 38 Studios executives have tried hard to find additional investors, such as venture capitalists, but have not had any luck so far. Schilling has publicly said he already put $30 million into the company, and he told state officials he did not have any more money to invest, despite a lucrative baseball career during which he earned $114 million.

“He says he’s all in,’’ Chafee said. “Tapped out.’’

Schilling could not be reached for comment.

Rhode Island has already provided the company with about $49 million of the $75 million loan. Chafee said he continues to oppose giving the company tax credits because of concerns it is likely to fail anyway and cost taxpayers even more. He added that the value of the intellectual property and other assets probably would be minimal, reducing the amount of money the state could later recoup.

The original loan package was approved under Chafee’s predecessor, Republican Governor Donald Carcieri; as a gubernatorial candidate, Chafee had criticized the deal with Schilling. The fallout from the loan has already led to the resignation of two officials from the Rhode Island economic development agency.

“If we could get some confidence that any further investment was going to lead somewhere profitable, I would be in favor of that,’’ said Chafee, a former Republican member of the US Senate, now a political independent. “That has just not been the case.’’

Pressed at a news conference Thursday about how the company could have failed so quickly, and whether the state had not provided the proper oversight for its investment, Chafee said the company had anticipated better sales from its first game.

“The game failed,’’ he said. “That was integral to the success of the company.’’

Kingdoms of Amalur sold an estimated 1.2 million units, which Chafee said is less than halfway to the break-even point, according to experts the state has consulted.

Schilling became a legend with Red Sox Nation in 2004 after pitching through an injury complete with a bloody sock during the American League Championship against the New York Yankees. He traded on his star power to build his company, which he renamed 38 Studios LLC, a reference to his Sox jersey number. Schilling retired from baseball in 2009.

The right-handed pitcher has said little to reporters, but has repeatedly taken to Facebook and Twitter to try to rally employees and raise hopes for the company’s future. On Thursday, he tried to rebut Chafee’s repeated claims that the company’s first game was a flop. In a Facebook post, Schilling insisted the game “outperformed’’ the expectations of its publisher, Electronic Arts.

Michael Pachter, a game industry analyst at Wedbush Securities in Los Angeles, said he was stunned by the failure of 38 Studios. He said Kingdoms of Amalur sold well and should have provided enough revenue to help the company stay afloat until its major project, Copernicus, was ready for release.

Pachter said the company must have lost control of expenses. “Clearly they spent more than they took in,’’ he said. “That’s just poor planning. What were they thinking?’’

But there was no guarantee that Copernicus, an elaborate online role-playing game set to be released in 2013, would be a big hit. Such “massively multiplayer online’’ games are notoriously costly and difficult to develop. Schilling estimated he might need more than $100 million to complete the game.

In addition to 307 workers in Rhode Island, 38 Studios had 106 employees in Maryland, where it bought the video game company Big Huge Games in 2009.

“It’s an incredible tragedy,’’ said Brett Close, a former 38 Studios chief executive who now works for Frog Design in Austin, Texas. The company’s trouble is a “testament to how difficult it is to create that type of product they were trying to build.’’

Video game experts say that 38 Studios could try to find a buyer or investor to salvage the company and remain in operation, but that scenario is unlikely.

“The consensus seems to be that it’s dead,’’ said Hank Howie, chief executive of Beach Cooler Games, a mobile game start-up in Boston.

Howie said part of the problem is that the company spent far too long working on Copernicus, in part because 38 Studios may have lacked enough experienced managers. He said the game should have taken the company no longer than three to four years, since it didn’t have unlimited funding.

“There are clearly some major issues,’’ Howie said. “You have to ship."
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